. >> also roiling democrats, soon-to-expire bush tax cuts. the president thinks only middle class tax cuts should be extended, but there are rumblings of democratic opposition in the senate and 31 house democrats echoing the republican position, called for an extension of tax cuts for everyone. is that a door we hear opening? >> the only thing i can tell you is that the tax cuts for the middle class will be extended this congress. >> joining me now from richmond, virginia, is former governor tim kaine, who is now chairman of the democratic national committee. thank you, governor -- thank you, mr. chairman, for joining us. i want to start out talking about health care reform. you think democrats should be out there bragging about it. so what do you make of the democrats who are putting out those ads, bragging that they voted against it? >> well, candy, i travel all over the country. i guess i've been in about 42 states. and most democrats i see on the trail are very proud of the accomplishment and they're talking about it. but you're right, so